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Horizon
Consolidated fair value $855.29 all other verticals held in this portfolio case
Final-quarter revenue $713M 2% of company revenue
Explicit segment contribution $3.74B EBITDA less segment capex, before corporate items

The CEO's own framing, priced. Growth continues AND the company keeps spending into it - new manufacturing capacity, and pipeline bought through business development rather than harvested. In model terms that is trend growth 0.6 points a quarter above base with 2.5 points less margin, because the acquired in-process R&D charge that funds the pipeline is a permanent cost rather than the one-off it is presented as. It is worth more than base and less than bull, and it is the only case here in which faster growth costs something.

Neuroscience

Basis quarter$429M
Final quarter$713M
Implied CAGR+11%
Final revenue mix2%

Kisunla ramping inside a decaying legacy base. At $429M it is 1.9% of revenue, the smallest therapeutic line and the least consequential to the valuation, but it is the one line whose disclosed history is a launch curve rather than a business.

Last four quarters
2025 Q3 $316M Reported
2025 Q4 $459M Estimated
2026 Q1 $382M Reported
2026 Q2 $429M Reported
Kisunlaother neuroscience
Sequential growth +4.0%/qtr decaying toward +1.0% 4.0% a quarter, half the noisy 8.2% four-quarter average, because the ramp sits inside a legacy base that is still shrinking.
Neuroscience

Latest: $713M (2031Q2E)

Period Value
2024Q1 $389M
2024Q2 $340M
2024Q3 $352M
2024Q4 $394M
2025Q1 $272M
2025Q2 $344M
2025Q3 $316M
2025Q4 $459M
2026Q1 $382M
2026Q2 $429M
2026Q3E $449M
2026Q4E $468M
2027Q1E $485M
2027Q2E $502M
2027Q3E $518M
2027Q4E $533M
2028Q1E $548M
2028Q2E $562M
2028Q3E $576M
2028Q4E $589M
2029Q1E $602M
2029Q2E $615M
2029Q3E $627M
2029Q4E $639M
2030Q1E $652M
2030Q2E $664M
2030Q3E $676M
2030Q4E $688M
2031Q1E $700M
2031Q2E $713M

Assumptions & reasoning

  • Left ASEASONAL on the research brief's own diagnostics: residual noise of 0.110 log-points is the largest of any line and is of the same order as the apparent Q4 uplift, whose estimate moves from 1.234 to 1.190 between the two windows. Fitting a season here would be fitting the Kisunla ramp, not a repeating calendar shape.
  • Kisunla grew from $49M in 2025 Q2 to $167M in 2026 Q2 while the rest of the line shrank, so the reported total understates the launch and overstates the base.
  • Outside-US neuroscience revenue fell from $2,183M in FY2023 to $694M in FY2024 to $394M in FY2025, which is why the ten-quarter history for this line is not a stable base to extrapolate from.
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