Earnings call

Sandisk Corporation Sandisk Corporation · Q4 FY2026 call

Call heldAug 5, 2026
Time4:30 p.m. Eastern
CEODavid Goeckeler

What the CEO argued

Goeckeler's argument was that Sandisk has stopped selling NAND by the quarter and started selling it by the contract. Eight New Business Model agreements now cover more than half of fiscal 2027's bits and about two-thirds of fiscal 2028's, carry a minimum of $93.9 billion of revenue at floor pricing, and are backed by $16.5 billion of customer deposits and guarantees — which he framed as alignment rather than money he expects to collect. The claim underneath it is that inference has made storage a strategic input, so the buyer is now a CFO signing a five-year commitment rather than a supply chain manager haggling quarterly, and that a mid-80s gross margin is the fair price of that arrangement rather than the top of a cycle.

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What they said

The quarter, in his own framing
The fiscal fourth quarter provided our clearest proof point yet. We delivered record revenue, gross margin and earnings per share, each above the high end of our guidance and repurchased $4.5 billion of company stock.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
Why NAND stopped behaving like a commodity
AI is fundamentally a memory-centric storage-intensive problem. And it is reshaping the demand equation for NAND.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
How fast datacenter took over the portfolio
A year ago, Datacenter represented roughly 12% of our bits. Exiting fiscal year '26, it represents 38% of our portfolio and is our fastest-growing end market.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
How much of the next two years is already spoken for
We expect our NBMs to represent more than 50% of our bits in fiscal year 2027, and approximately 2/3 of our bits in fiscal year 2028. NBMs are quickly becoming our predominant way of doing business.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
The size of the committed book
The total expected revenue from all our NBMs we have signed is a minimum of $93.9 billion, assuming floor pricing. We believe actual revenue will be above that minimum.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
RPO, before and after the two late signings
The remaining performance obligation, or RPO, at the end of the quarter was $59.8 billion and would be $91.1 billion including the 2 NBMs signed after the quarter closed.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
The collateral behind the contracts
Each one of our NBMs include financial guarantees through a combination of cash deposits and financial instruments totaling $16.5 billion, which are intended to protect Sandisk if a customer fails to satisfy its purchase obligations under these agreements.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
The beat, against the guide it was set on
Revenue came in above the guidance range of $7,750 million to $8,250 million that we provided on our prior earnings call. Sequential revenue growth came approximately 1/3 from higher volumes and 2/3 from higher pricing.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
Operating leverage, in one line
Non-GAAP operating expenses for the fourth quarter were $484 million, representing 5.4% of revenue, down from 7.5% of revenue in the prior quarter as we generated additional operating leverage.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
The buyback, and the share count it took out
During the quarter, we repurchased 2,836,000 shares of our common stock for $4.5 billion.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
The market they are underwriting
We estimate the NAND market will exceed $300 billion in revenue in calendar year 2026, up 3x year-over-year. Looking further ahead, we estimate that the NAND market will approach $500 billion in revenue in calendar year 2027.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
Guidance for the first quarter of fiscal 2027
For the first quarter of fiscal year 2027, we expect revenue between $10.3 billion and $10.8 billion with sequential growth driven by both bit growth and higher pricing. We expect non-GAAP gross margins between 83% and 85%.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
Why bit growth is lower than the long-term plan
We plan to operate at higher inventory days, consistent with current levels to support our NBMs and account for higher component costs. […] The higher inventory levels reduce sellable bits to mid-teens for the full year fiscal year 2027.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
Where NBM margins land
we do expect to be around 80% for the new business models. As you know, there is some upside as prices continue to go up, we'll capture some of that upside as well.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
Visibility, a year ago and now
a year ago, we were talking about visibility in this business of 3 months. And now we're talking over 4 years of committed financials and understanding the mix
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
What a fair return looks like at 84.6%
I think mid-80s gross margin, I would characterize as a fair return. And then we want to increase visibility and durability of the franchise, right? We want to get this kind of boom and bust out of it. It doesn't work for anybody.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
What the $16.5 billion of guarantees is actually for
They're making financial commitments to us that if they don't follow through on their commitments that I think $16.5 billion in aggregate would flow to us on our balance sheet. We don't ever expect to see that money, quite frankly. It's just to align interest.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
The conversation moved up the org chart
we are literally talking to the CFOs, the CEOs of the largest companies in the world. This used to be, quite frankly, just a supply chain conversation every quarter in a price negotiation 7x24.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
Customers came back for more one quarter in
we already have customers coming back for the second round of NBMs a quarter in. And so that gives us an enormous amount of conviction that this franchise is set up for the long term.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
Where PCs and smartphones actually are
we see units down mid-teens for both smartphones and PCs this year, but we still see in smartphones, we see average capacity up significantly, mid-teens in PCs, we see it flat.
David V. Goeckeler · Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
The margin guide is not the contracts dragging
I would not assume that our new business models are a drag on gross margin. They are good margins.
Luis Visoso · Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk

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On the call

  • Operator — Operator
  • Ivan Donaldson — Vice President of Investor Relations, Sandisk
  • David V. Goeckeler — Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Sandisk
  • Luis Visoso — Chief Financial Officer, Sandisk
  • Benjamin Reitzes — Analyst, Melius Research
  • Mark Newman — Analyst, Bernstein
  • David Gibson — Analyst, MST Financial
  • James Schneider — Analyst, Goldman Sachs
  • Christopher Muse — Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
  • Joseph Moore — Analyst, Morgan Stanley
  • Karl Ackerman — Analyst, BNP Paribas
  • Michael Tsvetanov — Analyst, Wells Fargo
  • Blayne Curtis — Analyst, Jefferies
  • Wamsi Mohan — Analyst, Bank of America
  • Asiya Merchant — Analyst, Citi
  • Vijay Rakesh — Analyst, Mizuho

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