Earnings call

Cisco Systems, Inc. Cisco Systems, Inc. · Q4 FY2026 call

Call heldAug 12, 2026
Time1:30 p.m. Pacific
CEOChuck Robbins

What the CEO argued

Robbins argued that Cisco's record year was earned rather than received. His frame was a "networking super cycle" driven by agentic AI, and he spent the call defending three claims underneath it: that the demand is broad rather than hyperscaler-only (enterprise orders +21%, public sector +30%, telco +30%, campus +20%), that Cisco's position with the hyperscalers was built over a decade of silicon, optics and security investment rather than handed to it, and that the AI business is still small enough to grow into — about 6% of FY2026 revenue, up from under 2%. He was also candid that Cisco is choosing lower-gross-margin hyperscaler revenue on purpose, because it carries almost no incremental operating expense, which is the argument behind a gross-margin guide that goes down while the operating-margin guide goes up.

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What they said

The frame he chose for the year
We believe the accelerating adoption of agentic AI is fueling a networking super cycle. As customers look to manage increasing traffic and costs, they are investing in Cisco's networking stack for inferencing across cloud, on-premise, and edge environments.
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
The hyperscaler order number, and what it multiplied
Moving to AI infrastructure for hyperscalers. We took $4 billion in orders in Q4, bringing the total for FY 2026 to $9.3 billion, approximately 4.5 x our fiscal year 2025 total. The mix of these orders in both Q4 and FY 2026 was approximately 60% Silicon One-based systems and 40% optics.
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
How big the AI business actually is inside a $63B company
For perspective, in FY 2026, approximately 6% of our total revenue was from AI infrastructure for hyperscalers, up from less than 2% in FY 2025.
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
A second AI order pool the release never mentions
In addition to the hyperscaler demand, we took over $400 million in AI infrastructure orders from neocloud, sovereign, and enterprise customers in Q4, bringing the total for the year to over $1 billion.
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
The scale-across bet, sized
we think the traffic that's generated from AI-based scale-across, which is effectively what used to be data center interconnect, is 14x what it was historically. We're uniquely positioned because in that space, we've got our P200, which we talked about having three wins already in that space across three different hyperscalers. By the way, we started taking orders from all three of them in Q4
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
The FY2027 guide, unpacked into growth rates
we ended FY 2026 with double-digit top-line and bottom-line growth, 12% and 14%. We see acceleration in both of those. So accelerating to 15% on the top line, 17% on the bottom line, again, driving that operating leverage with bottom line growth faster than the top line. With the $7.5 billion in hyperscale revenue, if you kind of back that out, you get to the core business growing at about 10%
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
Why gross margin is guided down, stated plainly
we are in this networking super cycle, which we are very early in the cycle, and we are shipping high volumes of hardware, which is increasing the revenue mix to hardware considerably. So you should expect a slight gross margin headwind as we move through FY 2027 as we address these very high growth opportunities.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
The metric he would rather be judged on
Operating margin is really a better indicator of our profitability, as our guide implies operating margin of about 35% for the full year FY 2027, which would be a high watermark for us as a company.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
Why lower gross margin on hyperscaler business is a decision, not a slip
This business, because of the magnitude of it and the growth rates, it allows us to take, even in some cases, a lower-margin business from a gross margin perspective that actually turns out to be highly profitable because we do not have to add incremental expenses to go gather that business. These are strategic decisions we are making about business to pursue
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
The margin trade in one quarter's numbers
I think Q4 is a great example of that. Gross margins on a year-over-year basis were down 2.1%, but OPEX was also down 3.7% as a percentage of revenue
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
Security, and the one-off inside the 14%
that 14% did have, and you kind of alluded to this could be the fact, did have a little bit of an anomaly in there. We saw Splunk during the quarter, and it always just depends on customer preference. During the quarter, we had some sizable on-prem deals that also had a little bit longer duration.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
Whether enterprises moving AI on-premise hurts Cisco
if they continue to use cloud-based models, that is good for us, just like it has been for the last two years. If they move to open-weight models or models that they are running on-prem, that is great for us because it means they will invest in more enterprise private data center networking, which we have seen the last two quarters.
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
Supply, and the absence of the lead-time problem peers are reporting
We really do not have any significant lead time issues that we are seeing, unlike we have heard a number of different peers talk about. […] We do not have any middleman between us and TSMC, so when we are securing silicon, we are looking at the whole supply chain, whether it is wafer substrates, assembly, and test, and really dealing directly with TSMC.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
AI orders converted to revenue, and why the guide looks conservative
on the AI orders, just for clarity, we did about $4 billion in revenue and $9 billion in orders for FY 2026. So obviously you are entering with some good backlog as we go into 2027. But these are non-linear orders that are massive in scale and are usually placed well ahead of time. So I think the $7.5 billion is a good prudent guide for the year.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
How much of the growth was price, not volume
In terms of the price increases, as you look at the impact on the financials, it was about five points in terms of top line revenue growth that we saw in Q4. As we look to FY 2027, you are going to begin to lap those price increases […] Overall, we are sort of planning for that kind of four to five points of impact this year as well.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
Memory costs, and why Cisco says it is less exposed than the server vendors
the price increases that we have done have been single digit. Unlike other companies that may have a majority of their products that are servers, 95% of what we sell are not servers, roughly. So rather than 2/3 of the bill of materials value being in memory, you are in kind of the 15%-20% of the bill of materials might be memory related for our products.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
Where the refresh budget is coming from
what we're hearing from our customers, is they're currently reprioritizing within their existing budgets. I would also say that you're beginning to see a trend where our customers are looking at AI readiness, Mythos readiness, quantum readiness, in a similar vein to how they've looked at cybersecurity spend over the last three to five years. It's just not optional.
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco
The disclosure that goes away in FY2027
As we get into FY 2027, we'll move to a more traditional revenue target, which we gave you of $7.5 billion. […] just won't put out an annual target, but instead, we'll have an annual revenue target. You should, though, expect orders to be meaningfully higher, I would say, in FY 2027 than they were in FY 2026.
Mark Patterson · CFO, Cisco
The closing argument: this was not luck
I want to make sure we're not thinking that we're accidental recipients of what's going on in this AI transition, particularly as it relates to the hyperscalers. […] If you go back just over six years, we had virtually no business with them inside their data centers.
Chuck Robbins · Chair and CEO, Cisco

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On the call

  • Operator
  • Sami Badri — Head of Investor Relations, Cisco
  • Chuck Robbins — Chair and CEO, Cisco
  • Mark Patterson — CFO, Cisco
  • Amit Daryanani — Analyst, Evercore ISI
  • Ben Reitzes — Analyst, Melius Research
  • Meta Marshall — Analyst, Morgan Stanley
  • Aaron Rakers — Analyst, Wells Fargo
  • David Vogt — Analyst, UBS
  • Joseph Cardoso — Analyst, JPMorgan
  • Karl Ackerman — Analyst, BNP Paribas
  • Tomer Zilberman — Analyst, Bank of America
  • Ben Bollin — Analyst, Cleveland Research

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